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When I started them with comic #1, I was excited about the fact that I could basically put the digital Ken and Barbie dolls together and hit the render button and hey presto! A picture like I could never draw! Awesome!
So putting the comics together in the early days, I literally put no thought into the plot or the attitude of the characters. It was just "What basic premise can I use to get these dolls out of their clothes and basically inserted into each other?". Good place to start.
Looking back at the first few (5?) comics I did, it's actually pretty cringey - not because of the poor rendering nor the stuttering scripts, but the pretty bad way they treat each other! Like in The Spymaster, when Tom gets Zan out of hypersleep and just bends her over and has sex with her?! WTF! The real, real, genuine reason I put that in the comic is because I actually genuinely couldn't be bothered to render the whole thing where he explains everything to her, and it was just quicker to just have them have sex right there. Stupid, craziness. I figured it's nothing like real life, and as far as character consistency was concerned, maybe Zan would forgive Tom because he was cool about protecting her from a rape scenario at the beginning of Comic #3 - remember Tom is offered sex with Zan in return for ship supplies. His honourable reply explains why they get on so well with sex afterwards, and why Zan forgives him later - she knows he's good and his confidence is generally in his ethics.
Anyway, rendering-wise, it was laziness. But who cares, it's a comic, it doesn't matter.
Then I got as far as Breakfast in Tacspace, and I guess I started caring about the characters a bit more - caring what they said and how that affected each other.
Which made me start thinking about what matters to me, what was the big deal about why I wanted to escape into creating a comic in the first place? What was I really trying to tell the story of? The whole reason I put a 'rape' scene in Dive into the Dark, after that, was that I wanted to make a comment about control in sex. Get the ball rolling. Big fucking ball, roll it slow. Take 20 comics to explain it, fine.
And now we get to the point. I've mentioned subservience before on this blog, years ago; it's an interesting topic which gained a few interesting comments at the time. I get that people really get into tying up / control within a relationship, within sex play, that's something I kinda get like I get that it's fun to dress up as doctors and nurses and be naughty. All good fun.
I also understand that some people actually like being treated like shit in their relationship all the time - though I do find that a bit sad if it's ALL the time, that seems more like serious psyche probs to me. I've had a few friends who've been drawn to abusive partners. I say a few, I had one. And that seemed to be because her parents were abusive and there was a whole trauma / abuse problem there re-occuring throughout her life. Not a happy bunny. Also pretty unusual. Not unusual to be abused, unusual to get a kick out of it.
So here's the point: how come there's so much subservience / control / abuse in porn? The propagation of abuse stuff in particular on porn sites is a bit worrying. Just look at the front page of Xvideos. Guys grabbing girls throats, calling them bitches, treating them like dirt. Like the male porn stars are the ethics police or something?
Is it the growth of the entitlement thing? Do young men really think they either claim (1) what's 'theirs', or (2) they earn it? That those are the only two options? Be a heck of a shame if that was the case, because both are bloody wrong. Is it because there's been so much divorce in America in the 80s/90s, and now we're seeing the cultural repercussions in the form of bad father-to-son modelling of behaviour? Those fatherless guys have grown up and are affecting the porn industry. Oh great. More prejudice against women. Wonderful.
*golf clap*
(Yes I know my thing is incest, and yes that might make me a massive hypocrite, but the difference with my particular bias is it's even-stevens, both parties get into it, and the other thing is there's only like 2% of stuff in porn is incest - it's nowhere near as mainstream as specific abuse of the female. If incest was prevailing so much I'd probably be equally concerned. I mean heck it'd be great if it was everywhere and it was sexy and well acted, but it'd still be a weird trend in terms of cultural psychology, right?)
So comic #19 will open with a discussion between Tom and Becky and I hope it kinda lays the ground for me to make a point in my comics. It's something I've been working towards (along with finding out about Ix's past), a bit of a discussion on misogyny and control.
Long-term readers of my blog will know I've always sorta thought of the different characters in my comics as different fragments of my own psyche. So when Tom's overconfident and full of shit in They Came in Outer Space - Ix lays him out. That's the part of me that wishes I could just end the conversation when a guy is unbelievably cocky. It's also the part of me that says stupid things and wishes I could take them back!
Or in the same comic when he says he doesn't want the alien girls, he just wants Becky - that's the part of me that wakes up and realises I'm in love. When Xho wants to do the right thing but keeps thinking about the wrong thing - that's me, right there. When Zan just wants everyone to get along, when Luce doesn't explain anything but remains a mystery, when Hayley just wants to cram things into her and experiment, when Becky's daydreaming or feeling cross - it's become ways to talk about my own feelings as opposed to just trying to produce a comic. I guess that's my secret. That, and not taking myself too seriously. So the next comic will include angry conversations about misogyny, and more incest than ever before.
Plus tits.
And dicks.
And bottoms.
Haha, bottoms. Gotta love em.
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21 comments:
Helpful and insightful. love the test renders. the second one made me laugh. it's good to laugh some times. the tag bellow helped with the laughing. thanks for the laugh, and the input. Nice to know there are helpful people still out there. I needed the "I don't know you." view on my work.
I'm glad you were pointing it out. I don't like seeing that type of content either but power stuff seems like one of those things you can't fight against. Unless the video is actually graphic you can't even report that stuff to the niche site it's supposed to belong.
Studies have found that is some places, over 50% of women have rape fantasies. This doesn't mean they actually want to be raped. In the same way, plenty of men find sexual control or domination arousing, but they don't necessarily have any intention of abusing their partners (and a lot find submission arousing too, I mean, just look at the insane number of Mistress/femdom/findom content on the web).
The question is not whether or not content in fantasy settings is harmful to society, the question is how well is society teaching people to discern between fantasy and reality. This question has been fought over in Video games for decades, and is still fought over. People fear that video games make people violent, or sexist or w/e. The science pretty strongly indicates that video games don't actually cause those things, but people don't listen to science.
People are constantly talking about 'unrealistic expectations' in porn and other such things. Porn isn't real though, it is fantasy, and if people are basing expectations of sexual relations on porn, then the problem isn't porn itself, but the lack of thorough sexual education. In-so-much as certain fetishes in porn may be growing or not, that may represent changes in psychological dynamics, perhaps with the the growing societal status of Women in general means increased prevalence of control fantasies. The important thing is not to judge society or men based on Porn, but on their actions.
This is one of the major reasons I enjoy your comics--you share my erotic story sensibilities. I much prefer character-based, fun, goofy sexiness to anything dark. When I started work on what ended up being The Great Scott Saga, I wanted to come up with a goofy, non-rape story hook that could have the characters get freaky while staying more or less in character. Thankfully, from a basic, silly premise, I was able to eventually develop a sprawling narrative that became probably even more interesting than the sexy bits to readers (judging from reader comments). Same goes for your comic here. I enjoy the sexy bits, but the main reason I enjoy the sexy bits is because I really like the characters you've developed and the on-going narrative. Plus, all the narrative and talky bits is basically reader foreplay, which makes everything much hotter. Anyway, I can't wait until the next chapter!
Ooh, good well-reasoned answer! :)
Haha thanks, yeah reader foreplay ftw!
Yeah it's a weird one. I guess same could be said for the little kinks I'm into were they to become mainstream. Ah well :)
Hey no worries. And like I said it might be worth putting it on a Fiction site where people can comment & help out more :)
(Not that I'd ever be brave enough to do that myself, but you know, worth a try!)
Suspect you'll be aware that most good art is essentially the creator working through his/her problems and learning from the process. It's what makes good art feel real, the reader in this case can relate to it and hopefully learn too. If it looks great too that is a bonus of course, especially the norks!
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1. You are associating a fantasy with reality. Suggesting a connection between rough porn and reality on how guys treat or think about girls is like suggest violent video game with a school shooting.
That is incredibly ignorant and rude
2. You last comic was pretty dull alot of dialog and little fucking for over 100 pages.
What one will indulge conceptually in fantasy is often (I would hope!) quite distinct, to any extreme, from one's real world views and conduct. But as the phrase 'art imitates life' implies, an artists' society and the affect of same on their perceptions naturally affects and informs their art in myriad senses, though to varying degrees. Moreover, most everything is created to affect an audience in some way for some reason(s), so you most always have the audience's precepts and the artists' perceptions of same factoring in.
It's not only too complex to ever discuss comprehensively, it seems, as far as I've seen, to be often difficult or impossible to discuss selectively at a meaningful level with a lot of folks. One common gotcha, as can be seen hereabouts, is conflating a discussion of 'art imitates life' with one of 'life imitates art'. It needn't follow...
You already know I dig your jive.
What I'll add wrt your post, then, is to observe that my favorite female characters have all been impacted more significantly than male characters, either by the social perceptions of key creators or by perceptions key creators had of their audience(s). How they were affected varies greatly, as does how severely it impacted how well and/or how much they were 'utilized' and of course their popularity. How others view it (and if such things are acknowledged or even recognized, when it comes to that) may sometimes be seen to change with changes in society.
Science fiction is the only genre I can really see myself dabbling in since it can be the least limited by one's present society and world. But although one might expect freer thinking in SF, the same ol' stuff is usually there, much more so of course in commercial work and more again in commercial tv/film/media. Doctor Who has provided many illuminating examples among the female 'companion' characters, in fact just the perception of the role is often laced with varied social conceits. My avatar (Chiana, from Farscape) is another.
Anyway, chili's ready, time for scarfin'. :)
your comment is basically the aggressive version of bdude's well-made points, above. Ah well.
1. Yeah I'd say fantasy is intrinsically associated with reality because it's created/imagined by a corporeal person. I admit that's debatable, so you can put the handbag away and have a little sit down, maybe a cup of tea
2. I guess you're not the demographic then eh? (insert here)
Yeah I hadn't heard it put like that before though, thanks :)
Ah bummer, blogger removed my 'facepalm' and 'deal with it' coding gags. Anyway, they were awesome and funny, let's leave it at that :D
Yeah; I was going to answer every point in turn but then realised that that would mean a long list where every point is basically me saying "I totally agree", so let's sum it up in a single nod instead.
*nods*
My favourite paradox about all this (and I include the scifi & Dr Who & Star Trek/Wars stuff in this) is that we're dealing with psychology and trauma and human relationships and astrophysics and hard plot and creator-vs-perceived-client dynamics and all that serious stuff, whilst relentlessly undermining all salient points with cock gags and bad puns and cups of tea and what is basically an excuse to draw boobies and bums!
Best paradox ever, and no better way to mirror real life IMO :)
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1. I defend this aggressively because people use this logic to try and censor and ban art, video games, and porn.
2. I guess you're not the demographic then eh?
Ok Why does someone look at this sort of stuff?To read?
You might want to go back and compare the amount of content that had sex and penetration. It is like you are trying to add something with some good dialog and a fair amount of sex into the opposite. It is like the porn videos that had some good dialog to it and then the the sequels to them just lost most of the porn element to it forgetting what porn is.
So what your demographic isn't people who actually enjoy what you used to make and care about reading over masturbation? Why render then? Chapter 17 had no sex in it. If you want to make a comic for you personal mental masturbation(instead of physical) of how much I have matured as a writer ok.
Whatever makes you happy. but you won't be offering the experience that your user base came here looking for. At the end you will probably put in the more work and maybe slightly larger different audience than what you had which begs the question.
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*to censor
lol dude. Mansplain in such detail, such miss the point, so me gusta. Please enjoy, if not enjoy then shame but I forgive :)
"Manplain" There is so many failures on every level. I stated my point of view and never explained anything but nice word to try and demean an opposing view point. You also have no idea of what gender I identify as.
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